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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 10:26 AMWrestled for one semester, then quit. Too many bad habits and bad girls diverted my attentioin elswhere.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:16 AMI played in HS for 4 years. Why do you ask?? -
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Sun, April 20, 2008 - 2:46 PMTo expand, I not only played Football in HS for 4 years, but also joined the Marines. I LARP, but I was in the SCA beforehand and have a great interest in mythologies and legends of various cultures. I did play D&D for a long time, before coming into the SCA and like theater so much that I started a business making videos and assisting people in the music industry and who strive to become models and such. Currently, I am in Iraq translating, so I guess that I didn't get that whole deploying thing out of my system quite yet (although I'm doing pretty good!!) I expect to return sometime later this year and going to events to boot!!
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:16 AMI played football in the streets as a kid, though never in an official league/team situation. I have been reluctant to fight, though it has been a dream of mine since I first started in the SCA back in '91. I think I have talked so much shit that things could go poorly for me on the field. I only fight in the back yard with the hubby... and not very well I might add.
Hubby on the other had did not play sports, other than 1 season of wrestling his sophomore year when he was at that very awkward stage in life and I think lost pretty much every match. He is an awesome fighter though, having come into his physical maturity and emotional/social maturity at a later age in life than some. -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:29 AMi swam and wrestled...
...but i got distracted by climbing on trees and roofs... and...anything...
...got into trouble for jumping from rooftop to roof top...
i learned to walk across the top of chainlink fences...
i loved the woods and managed to swing from tree to tree on some vines i found...
also climbed cliff's... had a few near accidents there...
...did some cave exploring...of course... but never did the sewer run...
i still like the wrestling part ... depending on the partner/s/
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 1:08 PMThe husband was curious. He played football in High School and was wondering if people who were attracted to one might be attracted to the other.
He just really likes figuring out demographics and patterns in tendencies. Frankly, so do I. He asked me last night if there were a lot of ex football guys among the heavy fighters, and I honestly didn't know, so I said I'd ask.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 1:47 PMPlayed in HS one year.
Never really got into it so much as wanted to be around my friends.
Came into heavy fighting in the SCA kinda roundabout too - Archery, then rapier, now heavy.
Our marshall just sighed after I authed in sword and board and said "Hmm, you gonna do *that* too?". -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 2:07 PMNope, never played organized football. Used to do some martial arts, but that's about it. -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 3:34 PMDulcinaya T,
I hope you don't mind if I add to your question, but I have been somewhat curious.
How many Heavy fighters LARP'ed before the SCA. Just curious. -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 5:21 PMNever LARPed...... Thought they were nerds.... Sorry, do not mean to offend anyone. -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:54 PMI went to a LARP hoping for the kinda of action I ended up finding in the SCA. When the first fight I was in at the LARP ended up in someone freaking out and yelling "charging! charging! he's charging!" after I hit them, I was out of that pretty quickly.
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 8:34 PMHow many Heavy fighters LARP'ed before the SCA. Just curious.
I joined Dagohir before I joined the SCA
Achbar
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 3:17 PMHeavy fighter boyfriend played football in high school, lacrosse and hockey in college.
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 6:28 PMThe husband was curious. He played football in High School and was wondering if people who were attracted to one might be attracted to the other.
He just really likes figuring out demographics and patterns in tendencies. Frankly, so do I. He asked me last night if there were a lot of ex football guys among the heavy fighters, and I honestly didn't know, so I said I'd ask.
Thought it might provoke an interesting discussion. :-)
damned good question. I playd in Jr High School. I was too busy playing D and D to play football.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 5:24 PMNot American Football bit I did play soccer and wrestled for a season. Then started surfing and gave up the rest, I always was a slacker at heart.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 7:43 PMNever played football in HS, never LARPed. I was on rifle team in HS for a couple years, then had to quit because I got a job.
As far as getting into heavy fighting, well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Of couse, when I managed to do something stupid while fighting heavy that resulted in a 3/4 a pound of titanium rod and screws in one leg, that seemed like a good idea at the time too. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 8:30 AM'managed to do something stupid while fighting heavy that resulted in a 3/4 a pound of titanium rod and screws in one leg, that seemed like a good idea at the time too. "
Youch!, what happened there dude? I ask cause i damn near got my ankle broke during the great wall battle at pennsic this year. Had to be dragged from the field by my friends and couldn't fight for the rest of the week. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 12:59 PMIt was a household spring practice. Limited frontal engagement type of thing, guy was on a walkway and basically if he moved a step sideways in either direction he was dead. He was fighting spear, I was on sword and board.
Well, seeing as he was the best fighter we had in the house at the time, eliminating him from the field would have been a really good thing for my side. So, I charged him. (As stated, it seemed like a good idea at the time.)
Looking back on it now, I made a serious of mistakes - the first being that I charged him (though people who know of the group I was in, and know the group would say the first mistake I made was listening to Tyr tell me to charge.) My second mistake was hitting the guy high, up in the chest with my shield when we made contact (that was the BIG mistake.)
Now, I should take a moment to mention that I stand about 6'3". The guy I was charging is close to 7' (maybe a little over, maybe a little under) and built like, well, a mobile watch tower. (He also could run faster backwards then most of us could run forwards.)
Naturally, since he was fighting spear, the defensive posture on facing a charging shieldman is to use that spear across the body to block and deflect. My target did this. At his upper chest level where I had centered my hit on. (Afterwards he even said had I hit him around hip level he might have had to take a step to keep balance.) So, I hit his spear and he pushed back to deflect me off.
Now, this is where doing the right thing worked against me. I had braced my leg as I drove in, for the leverage. WHen I went backwards from being deflected, the leg stayed planted. I am told that the first break in the middle of tibia and fiba could be heard over 100 ft away, OVER the sound of the rest of the melee. It could even be heard on the video recording that was being taken at the time.) Now, thankfully, that first break saved some other complication when the spiral fracture started from the ankle and moved upwards, that fracturing stopped at the first break (which is good because if it has gone all the way up, there would have been MAJOR reconstruction to not only the whole of the lower leg, but also most of the lower part of the knee socket.)
To shorten the story, by the time I hit the ground and got my leg out in front of me, there were upwards of 17 different breaks between knee and ankle. Some major surgery, nine months off work, and another couple months of still using a cane to walk with after returning to work on light duty, and I was getting better. I can now give metal detectors fits though, since the rod is about as big around as my pinky and goes from knee to ankle, along with the five 'wood screws' (allen head, I asked only because if someone told me to go screw myself, I could pull out the proper tool to do so.)
That is the short version, makes an entertaining story when sitting around a fire swapping fighting tales. I have been back in armor since then, though not in any event tourney or melee fighting, only shire and private practices. The leg does give me some concern, but mostly the lack of armoring up has been due to a pretty messed up work schedule and other projects taking precedent over getting to 'play.' -
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 8:33 AMI ended up seperated from my household during the great wall battle when a hold was called. I was fighting polearm and had several enemy shieldmen across from me. When lay on was called and they charged, I somehow ended up with one leg on each side of the haybale and several guys fell on top of me, I heard/felt somthing in my ankle go squish/crunch and when I tried to stand up it didn't work too well. I was hobbled up for the rest of the week. Still, compared to surgey and 17 breaks I got off pretty easy.
Might do combat archery on bridge/great wall battles from now on.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 9:30 PMdidn't play any sports in high school. tended to hang out more with the brainiacs and drama geeks.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 9:32 PMI played football for 5 years ending after my 9th grade season, playing only marginally well. I went on to suck at Cross Country & Track (2 mile run), and played Soccer as a senior (JV squad co-captain).
I did theater (stage crew) as a junior & senior in High School (FWIW). Played intramural volleyball & basketball.
No college sports except intramurals (volleyball, mostly).
I LARP'ed for six years (Dagorhir) prior to committing to SCA fighting (auth'ed in 1995).
Pretty diverse, I guess....
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 2:24 AMI was a swimmer (8 years), and a D&D player for one weekend 56 hours strait, but that did not attract me like the SCA and heavy fighting. I was in college when I joined and tried a few other things.
I think that your question is worthy of a survay as I do not see a direct corrilation with any of the Heavy fighters and other social groups. I would like to find out that the years I spent being a beating tree as unique years. I think that the fighters have a high intelligence or fair schooling (16+ on average), which attracts them to the group. I also suspect that former football players are too beat up to be an active heavy fighter. You would figure that the damage incurred in both sports would preclude the other, with SCA damage being the way lesser.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 4:52 AMI think this may be a bit different region to region… And if I was to guess I would say a lot of the folks that fight in the SCA did not play organized sports. For a couple reason I would guess, but one being they just didn’t fit in the jock crowd. More than likely our fighters come from non athletic backgrounds or sports that were not group activities. I myself boxed, I boxed for a number of years winning the Maryland golden gloves twice… but never played any organized group sports.
Hope that hopes, I could be off, but in my opinion that is what it seems
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 6:19 AMCould be true but the heavy fighters I know really act like frat boys. :-) -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 8:26 AM:( well that is sad... though we are..... or at least I am trying to emulate a brotherhood… of noble behavior, the romantic view of knighthood. Though I often fall short of what I think a knight should be, I continue to strive for that lofty goal. A quote if you will from THE MAN William the Marshal
“What is it then to bear arms? Does one employ them as one might a harrow, a winnowing-fan, an axe?
No, it is a far more arduous labor. What then is Chivalry? So strong a thing, and of such hardihood,
and so costly in the learning, that a wicked man or low dare not undertake it... Whoso would enjoy high honor
first must display that he has been well schooled to such arts.”
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 6:48 AMHey, Dulcy!! --Way to roll-call all the mans!!
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 9:11 AMExclellent and interesting answers, all. And no, I don't mind your adding the LARP question at all, it makes for that much more an interesting discussion (especially since I used to run a LARP myself for five years, which was in and of itself a fascinating demographics study.)
Malicious: hehehehe....yeah, I guess you're right! :-D
Here's what I think is an interesting LARP/SCA observation: our LARP had six "teams". Players could pick which team they wanted to be in. Nearly every single SCAdian who played gravitated to that team without any influence from us to the same team. You could bet money on it. This was only sometimes trumped in the case of SCA military men, who would mostly gravitate to an completely different team. I just thought it was interesting how different types of people would gravitate towards predictable teams. -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:14 AMNo I never played in organized sports in High school. Simply not coordinated enough. Bicycled and skateboarded all over town though with my friends who were all also misfits.
We all did play D&D but I didn't care for it and didn't play much. Few of my friends really progressed into LARPing.
I fight becuase I can (though not well) but also to support my friends who do.
I also belong to a fraternity (NOT COLLEGE) and I see the point made about SOME fighters acting like Frat (college) boys. Sadly they are the ones that need the wake up call and will never see it.
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 7:16 AMI never LARPed. Never found that at all interesting. Fighting in the SCA is more of a real personal challenge and I enjoy the historical focus of the SCA. A bit hard to explore your warrior nature holding a foam boffer. For me, my fellow fighters are like a fraternity only in the sense that it builds up a real sence of brother and sisterhood. In terms of the negative aspects of college fraternities the fighters I know are less likely to be involved in that kind of thing than many other groups of people. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 7:35 AMWhen I said frat boys, I was talking about drinking, gambling being loud, pissing in bushes and staying up all night and having a hangover the next morning on the field. None of the bad stuff that happens with frat boys like rape, car jacking, gang beating of "nerds" or wearing trendy cloths and having popped collars. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 9:36 AMplayed alot of D&D in junior high and college, but never did the LARP thing. I also play paintball, ride horses, hunt and spend alot of time in the woods when I'm bored. The only thing I ever did that was too hardcore for me was backyard wrestling, still got scars from that foolishness. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 9:37 AMOh, forgot to add this....have been bull riding 5 times, thats another one thats too hardcore for me (I broke a leg).
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 8:02 AM
i always wanted to play football in HS but my school didn't have it, we were a soccer school. So the most i ever did was play tennis for the school.
But i play paintball and grew up a 'woods' type kid on a farm with lots of woodlands to play in, so getting bruised and beaten is kinda fun for me.
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 10:05 AMNever played football, but I have worked horses for most of my life. I also never LARP'd before the SCA.
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 12:43 PMI tried a couple sports but nothing really grabbed me except raquetball, but that was a PE class. Other than that I was a band geek. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 4:38 PMI'm not a heavy fighter, but I'll answer for my husband. Yes he played football. No he didn't LARP, but he spent a lot of time playing D&D. And he isn't only a theater geek, he works in the theater. He discovered SCA in college (at U of Toledo). When he moved to MD he couldn't find the SCA (when the internet was still a baby and search engines where just dreams) but he found Dagohir.
Me, I've always loved the King Arthur legend and Camelot and I've been attending the Maryland Renn Fest since I was teenager when my mom won tickets from a local radio station. When I met my husband it just seem right. We did Dagohir until we found the local SCA group.
Cassair
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 5:09 PMPlayed in junior high, but not highschool. Interesting question though.
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 2:48 PMOddly enough, they frowned on girls playing football around here when I was in school. So, no.
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 8:42 AMFootball - only touch in elementary school
Rugby - only with friends in high school
Eastern martial arts - definitely in college (years)
Floor Hockey (fairly rough-and tumble game) - Intermural team in college
"Squish" (Squash as basic framework for the game, body-checking opponents into walls OK and, if you can bounce the ball back up into play with your racket, the game is still on) - 1.5 yrs. in college
Do any of those count?
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 2:51 PMFootball, basketball, baseball all through Jr high, ran cross country in high school. I have noticed that a lot of the people that I have met come from military backgrounds, law enforcement, some form of martial art, or were bouncers in bars. -
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Wed, April 16, 2008 - 12:17 PMI'm stll addicted to rock em sock em robots. -
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Wed, April 16, 2008 - 1:58 PMDude!! If you have a set, that would be the sh*t!
I haven't played in years.
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